Anyone out there actually worked for this part of the Census with accurate info? If they harass you with phone calls change your number before they do the census and keep it unlisted. Title 13 of the United States Code, however, requires that the Census Bureau keep this information confidential and subjects employees who violate this confidentiality requirement to a fine of up to $250,000 USD, up to 5 years imprisonment, or both. The next day I got an e-mail saying that the "government guy" was OK with it and that I should return the form. I did this and then disposed of the form. The information from the Census should suffice for the allotment of federal funds for schools and roads. The Founding Fathers wanted the power to stay with the people - but it took a revolution to secure it. I even downloaded a sound bite that said this number has been disconnected and is no longer in service. My high school son came home and read the questions and his first response was "this is communist." I say, "I don't care who you are. For example, lets say in 1790, two years after the ratification of the Constitution, Congress prepared a budget and decided to impose a direct tax to raise the needed revenue. So keep your information private and don't give in. The states need to reassert their rights back from the federal government. I will report her actions to our manager and possibly to her supervisor. The agent asked about receiving the survey and I informed him that mailed addressed to "resident" was not the responsibility of any named occupant to open but I was also familiar with the unconstitutional intrusion of the personal questions in such a survey and the corporate partners with which the data is shared. Wake up America! I threw it away. U.S. Census Bureau Notice and Consent Warning You are accessing a United States Government computer network. Should all of us contact our local media so that everyone knows about ACS? Uncle Sam gets my money but what happens in my home stays in my home. I had missed several calls but the pattern seemed to be that I got them every other day. He was shocked and said it was required by law. It is confined to determining the number of Representatives [in the House] and imposing direct Taxes among the several States. Avoiding them will not really be possible since we have a houseful of teenagers who will most likely keep answering the door. I started my business for 75 cents. To complete it by mail, simply. However, while The Rutherford Institute has been made aware of Census Bureau agents engaging in harassing tactics and threatening behavior, to date, we are unaware of the Census Bureau having levied any financial penalties for non-compliance with the ACS. Thus, if they want a specific task force to track illegals and tax invading americans, then so be it. Granted, I'm sure they can find it, but the census would have had to use some powers beyond their department to find it, since I intentionally left that form blank on the 2010 census. Don't engage them in conversation or reason with them. Their job is to get the form completed, that is all. He ignored the legality but admitted there were corporate sponsors involved. If you are contacted by Census Bureau employees, either by telephone or in person, demanding your response, you can assert your rights by politely, but firmly, informing the employee that you believe the ACS is an improper invasion of your privacy, that you do not intend to respond and that they should not attempt to contact you again. FORM. finally he told her he would call the cops if she didn't leave. I want to put it in the woodstove and make my house a fortress. There's no excuse for making a living out of trying to intimidate American citizens and using lies about the law to create a threatening and harassing atmosphere on one's own private property. All i have to do is tell some temporary worker my family's medical history, financial history, and of course, what time we can be burglarized (oops, I mean the time of day that we leave and come home from work). I hope this helps. These concern matters that the government simply has no business knowing, including questions relating to respondents bathing habits, home utility costs, fertility, marital history, work commute, mortgage, and health insurance, among others. LOL. Why am I in the unlucky 2.5%? And the survey demands that you violate the privacy of others by supplying the names and addresses of your friends, relatives and employer. If every household in the nation received this survey at once, there might be more of any outcry and uproar for our government to cut out the nonsense or face a revolution! Because the rich have been given free passes by laws created by and for the rich, we must beware these so called laws they create. A: The U.S. Constitution requires that a decennial census be conducted every ten years for the purpose of making an actual enumeration of the persons within each state. First I didn't send the form back "as soon as possible". During the last month since I received the first one, I've had many many phone calls from someone asking for my husband and saying he is from a veteran's charity. Kilbourn v. Thompson, 103 U.S. 168, 190. The US Census Bureau makes it clear that the American Community Survey (ACS) is authorized under Sections 141 and 193 of Title 13 of the United States Code, and that compliance with the survey is legally mandatory. Chinese officials knew nothing about the virus before the pandemic emerged. I tossed out both copies of the ACS long form. We aren't answering these questions for anyone unless they show up and arrest me and a judge makes me do it in court. The next day I called back and talked to a different agent or whatever they are. And if said "enumerator" doesn't like it, tough! By the way, from what I read in Title 13, the max they can fine you is $100 for not filling out the form, or max $500 for false information. Clearly our government is out of control by trying to intimidate citizens to comply with this survey. We've had non-stop, unannounced visits by the same census taker, who continues to drive-by the home multiple times during the day. I will comply when they 1) remove the millions of illegals from U.S. soil, 2)oust criminals who do not even pay their taxes from political power positions, 3) listen to the will of their constituency and remember we are a "representative republic" not a "Banana Republic" 4) stop plotting the demise of American citizens with their plans for a Eugenicists health care plan. a race is a competition with winners and losers being monitored by individuals who are not in the running. The judge summarized that general statements made by the Census Bureau with regard to, say, the support of federal law or that taking the ACS was required by U.S. law fall short of the benchmark necessary to constitute a specific threat of prosecution. anon 77369: It is incorrect to say that you are required to respond. After reading through the 28 pages of questions the second time (not 28 questions but 28 *pages* of them), I decided to do my research. I just thought I would throw that out there! no one here is related etc., etc. Sure, businessmen could use the info -- but because someone wants it, doesn't mean that I have to give it. Help people, can I really get fined if I don't fill this crap out? I just moved to a suburb outside of Detroit after years of living there, and its strange but I also got 'grilled' the last time it came around. The census man came to my house eight times, two of which he sat in my driveway for a total of 50 minutes. How many times has this person been married? Even in police states, they don't ask these questions asked by the Census Bureau for the ACS. The Census Bureau provides guidelines that prevent harassment or late night calls, although some ACS recipients have complained of getting several calls a day. Back to this census nonsense: I filled out the 2000 and don't owe them a thing until 2010 census. Being able to have the best information available in targeting a potential market based off this information is invaluable. Those . Now there was the random insanely long, for one out of four, which I think is totally unfair. Our government is abusive, tyrannical and murderous. Condos hire people inside the condo as census people. All I can think of is that every time one of us gives in and allows this servant to go unchallenged, then they get bolder, prouder, and we get used to it and then we are eventually abused by them. Read our Newswire Disclaimer. Now, Bob and Joan Rapier say their. The Rutherford Institute American will also allow most passengers barred from flying for mask noncompliance "to resume travel at some point in time," Gatten said in an earnings call on Thursday. [35] Daniel Freedman, The Orwellian American Community Survey, The Weekly Standard, http://www.weeklystandard.com/article/431469. At the very least, if you are going to refuse to do the census, try to be respectful, as some of the census workers are former military. Let them in and then fart really loud. Most U.S. representatives have local offices. If, as you say, all of this info can be found online already, then get it online, without my help. I also ignored the mailed survey. But obviously they want to know everything about you. Anyway, this guy knocked twice or three time so I ignored him. This warning is clearly stated on the ACS envelope, and the form itself threatens a fine for people who refuse or willfully neglect to complete the survey. I've been through it. (Don't worry there are no cops or former cops that are census workers. Got angry and physical with me (not a lot, just a shove as I tried to take back the Public Servant Questionnaire he wouldn't fill out.). It's unbelievable that they have the right to do this, on principle alone, I will not. I work for a defense contractor, and when I applied for a security clearance, there were way fewer questions, and much less invasive than were on the ACS long form. Person 18a. Don't you think someone high up already has their * in a wringer over that? Thanks, people, for your informative and oftentimes humorous posts here. When I answered the door she said who she was and had a survey for me. That's exactly the number printed on the lower right had corner of my ACS form. its no joke. I intend to scan the thing and email it to everyone I know, plus my congressman and senators. While talking to the ACS lady on the phone I found out they didn't have a complete address and had sent me a form. She then said "so you are refusing". I hung up immediately and called the sheriff. She didn't have the common courtesy to disclose that little fact. Then we find out she is our next-door neighbor! The court agreed with the defendants contention that courts have consistently considered unripe for review cases wherein there was no specific threat of enforcement or history of prosecution under the relevant statutes.. Do some research for "0810" without the quotes and you'll find that OMM no. Title 13 section 141, subsections (a) and (d) authorize surveys. This second survey is going right in the burner. No one from the Census has been escorted off your property by the police - Title 13 gives them the right to be on your property. Also available, The Rutherford Institute has developed a form letter that you may use in standing up against the governments attempt to force you to disclose personal information. Optimize Your Non-Profit with Census Data. I feel empowered. It is against the law to solicit minors so therefore they do not have to be counted in the total. (This is about 10:02 a.m. which is very early in my world since I work from noon till 9 p.m. When I saw the personal and invasive nature of recent Census, I was irate. Referring to financials, I told them to ask the IRS. its nothing short of communism folks!! Should you have further questions or need legal assistance in exercising your constitutional rights, please contact the Legal Department at legal@rutherford.org. I hung up. Lecture notes about civil liberties and rights. [15] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/YearBuilt.pdf. I just hope one of them won't be on my 'case.'. Nevertheless, fines and legal action are technically possible. They DO go away. Nobody is listening -- another reason not to send in the ACS. I did not send it back, I received another and still did not fill it out. The law does not say you have to answer their questions (so don't). By the time the phone calls started I had researched the ACS and knew what the game was and that the threat of fines was bogus. If you got grilled before then they are trying to find out the change in your situation over time. We randomly sample addresses in every state, the District of Columbia, and Puerto Rico. I suggest that people find a petition out there against this census survey. He asked if I would consent to a phone survey and I could decline from answering any questions I thought were too personal or intrusive. Thank Gosh, I documented every call and person I spoke with. Will we ever return to our freedoms? . ACS is relatively new, it has merely replaced the "long form," as it was known, of the decennial census, which has been around for a very long time, and asked similar questions. This has been going on for almost three months and has caused tremendous stress in our household. Those of you who are interested just might try at least the internet to find out what this is all about. As a descendant of both victims and survivors of the Auschwitz death camps, I have a keen sense of the length and breadth of what government intrusion in the lives of private citizens can result in. Learn about two important Census Bureau surveys covering housing data, the American Community Survey (ACS) and the American Housing Survey (AHS). I'm planning on returning it blank, with a letter stating the reason for not complying is the OMB# expiration. What Percent of the US Population do Lawyers Comprise. But in this day and age, do you really believe by not taking the census that your personal information is more thoroughly protected? 1 found this answer helpful | 0 lawyers agree | Voted as Most Helpful Helpful Unhelpful 2 comments Alice M. Cabrera I have written to the senators of my state and didn't even receive a 'canned' response. I have therefore included both Article 1 section 2 of the US Constitution, and the US Supreme courts decisions in upholding the right to privacy. I started researching and am grateful for the advice by others here and on other sites. The Nazis were just doing their jobs, also, "anon75478" but that doesn't make it right. I assume that's why they have come again. Since 2005, the Census Bureau has administered a set of probing questions to a large random sample of Americans each year. It does make an interesting snapshot of america. Currently, Oscar is a 7-year-old boy with ODD whose refusal behaviors have begun to be both verbally aggressive and physically violent. Enumeration. ClassAction.org is a group of online professionals (designers, developers and writers) with years of experience in the legal industry. The census worker also tried to "bait" me into giving false answers by saying "just answer the question anyway you like even if it's not true."
These people are trying to "do their jobs", but there are better ways to make a living, one that doesn't help enslave Americans even further with more "government help" and ultimately, taxation. I am proud to be an American, but not very proud of our government. No one has been fined for failure to comply, and no one ever will be. Im not and if their track record is any benchmark, nobody should. They are so proud to be counted among the blessed. With Halloween right around the corner, how about scare the crap out of them. I am sickened by all of it. Please, that's where this money is going in there pockets. United we stand divided we fall. I then yelled at him to "beat it" - (since he could see me and it was obvious that I knew he was there.). One dear government lady actually said she did not have time for prank phone calls. Who has my info now? The oath means something to us and I for one am going to continue to tell them to stick it where the Sun Does Not Shine! The role of defense styles and psychopathological symptoms on adherence Thomas Jefferson. I thought to myself, now they are going to harass them. I can not believe this is United States, land of freedom and liberty. I ignored all of this due to what I had been through. Miss. Most people allow themselves to be bullied and are afraid of breaking some law. But remember some of these folks have children to feed, too. When someone asks my wages, my mortgage information, and what time and where I work, I see this as "seizing personal information." We did not support and defend the Constitution for this crap. I was mailed two ACS forms which I promptly threw in the trash because of the personal nature of the questions. Lastly, if you are a proper pet owner, then you consider you dog, cat, etc. Alternatively, those who returned the survey partially completed and communicated with the Census Bureau agents generally received more contacts. I didn't hear from them for about two weeks. The American Community Survey: Is it legit & do you have to answer? A: Those who do not answer the ACS risk repeated overturesby mail, by phone and in personfrom Census Bureau employees seeking to compel a response. I left the notice stuck to the door. [16] https://www2.census.gov/programs-surveys/acs/about/qbyqfact/2016/Vehicles.pdf. Why don't you post the number in your family, their names, ethnic profile, give us your address and then, we will consider giving merit to your post. A refusal to answer any question on the ACS or giving an intentionally false answer is a federal offense. I just did not answer the door (a habit with any unscheduled visitor so not hard for me). I simply put, 'None of your business". Its about an obnoxiously intrusive survey, based on a lie about fire stations and such, done in a not so anonymous manner, by people who are often temporary workers and thus lack accountability for the privacy of the information they take. and even spells it. They again called a few days ago and I answered. Because of a physical, mental, or emotional condition, does this person have serious difficulty concentrating, remembering, or making decisions? It actually notes in it "Your response to this survey is required by law (Title 13, U.S. Code, Sections 141 and 193).Title 13, as changed by Title 18, imposes a penalty for not responding." Get over yourselves! This is plain wrong! During the past year and especially with the current administration in D.C., I am so angry and distrustful of our government. This is about a rental property that is currently empty and was on April 1, if that really means anything. OMG!! Person 48. Fine. That didn't stop the harassment, visits leaving notes while I was at work, or conversations asking my neighbors questions about me like I was some criminal or something. It has taken almost two decades to get it to this point where something intelligent can actually be done to manage our mess. This United States Supreme Court case has never been overturned. Everyone tells me to throw it in the trash! Section a authorizes every 10 years starting April 1. To posters 190 and 191: Thank you for your input and advice. Its as if this part of the government wants to create dirt on someone if they can find it! I will not comply. First in a 2021 survey, support for hard authoritarianism is low, as only 9% of U.S. faculty were willing to support various dismissal campaigns and only 7-18%, depending on the issue, supported ousting a dissenting academic. There, I think I got my point across. I wonder how many of those opposing census questions will annually volunteer much more private information and their personal wealth to a real evil unconstitutional organization - the IRS. Haven't heard from the ACS people, "government man", or my dorm supervisor since then. As one post on this site said "bring it on.". Any thoughts? in preparation for the day this country is taken over by the European Union or China. Now, I want to know how we go about suing these senseless census idiots! Like many, I received the original short census form, completed it and mailed it back immediately. When I did return it, I left off my personal business. I may answer the door this time, but my attitude is going to be that I won't allow this to cause me any more stress than deciding what toppings I want on my pizza. The 22-page lawsuit against U.S. Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo and Bureau of the Census Director Robert Santos says that unlike the normal ten-year Census, the yearly American Community Survey asks detailed and personal questions regarding a persons sexual orientation, gender identity, fertility history, marital status and divorce history. We have been like a frog cooked in our own water slowly. 3 US airlines will let some passengers banned for mask violations back The American Community Survey (ACS) qualifies as a government program whose purpose, while seemingly benign, raises significant constitutional concerns. I vote, and if the politicians do not honor their promises when they get into office, I'm sure Uncle Sam couldn't care less about what my area needs either.