date of manufacture for Italian replica six Perfect for display and target shooting. I started out with 10 to 15 grains, then worked up. (No, I didn't win it my son beat me in the shoot-off. Also, ASM use forged frames instead of castings on many of their revolvers.Replica Arms of El Paso, TX was started by L.F. Allen. Mechanically fine., s/n C216xx, 44 BP; 90% blue, good bore, good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Made in Italy. Like this guy. Just my opinion. While the patent date of this gun was in 1858, actual production didnt start till after 1861 or so, I think 62. Excellent shape with no not for sale by BuffaloHunter4 on GunsAmerica.com the best online marketplace for buying and selling semi auto pistols, firearms, accessories, and collectibles : 972952045 WW II RIBBON USS SAN MARCOS LSD-25 NAVY*EMBROIDERED POLO SHIRT/SWEAT/JACKET. I shot them for five years until I got my Colts and they worked fine. ARMI SAN MARCO .45 LC Hartford Model Box Papers Manual Spring, Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco, Armi San Marco dragoon pistol grips pearl / gold leaf plastic, Armi San Marco Hawkeye/Ridgerunner Reference copy single page 7.5x11Diagram, SAN MARCO - ROAD BIKE - SADDLE - ROLLS - GOLD RAILS, Leave feedback about your eBay search experience - opens in new window or tab. Blued finish, plain walnut grips. A great design of a pistol. Lock needs attention, hammer won't hold., s/n 346xx. Mausers, Lee Enfields, Mosins, Krags etc. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Remington 1858 Armi San Marco New in Box-never fired. .44 Caliber 8in Blued Octagonal Barrel Brass Guard Walnut Grip Steel Frame Top Strap/Post Sights Overall Length: 14.5in Weighs: 2.75 pounds Model: FR18582 WHY CUSTOMERS CHOSE THIS ITEM Specifications Questions & He has a bee in his bonnet, that he is the ONLY person in the world who knows how to correctly clean black Powder revolvers. My dad bought one of these (pretty sure its the same thing) with an 8 barrel. Old South Firearms, LLC This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. Same as for buying an 1873 Colt Peacemakerjust because it was designed prior to 1899 doesnt mean that you can have it shipped to your door. After the first range trip, i tore it down to the last screw and cleaned/oiled the whole thing and still wound up with some rust on it when I put it back together the next day. Once a year I strip them right down to the last screw, wipe the mixture of oil and black powder residue off them,(Never found any rust!) No record exists of his ever giving an Ordinary, Plain workmanlike Pistol, to anyone who might actually have to FIGHT with the badly designed piece of Junk!!!!! It has never given me a lick of trouble, and whenever I am at a shoot where I want to do as best I can, it will be in my right holster, with a 3rd Gen Colt in my left. As neat as that would seem it can also be a curse. I have guns I bought from them as long ago as 2001, and they are all beautiful. Put some lube over the ball to prevent chain fire. So If you load the .44 Remington with something like 25 grains blackpoweder you only get about 100 ft-lbs energy. I have developed a way of cleaning and loading, that if followed EXACTLY, will give YOU the same degree of Reliability as I have! Great article and comments, THE BLUING IS NEAR FLAWLESS. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. .44 Cal percussion. Colonel in Texas Army. THE FRAME AND HAMMER RETAINS APPROX 90% OF THEIR COLORS.. I have been told of caps jamming up a Remington Revolver, but in over Twenty Years of shooting Remingtons, have not had a single jam caused by a cap! The type of man who could sell Deep Freezers and electric Fans to Eskimos! BLUED BARREL SHOWS SMALL AREA OF PATINA ON LEFT ADJACENT TO RECEIVER. Range, of course, is quite limited. armi san marco I shoot both of them and they are a hoot. The standard pistol primer is an 11, but if it does not fit tightly and has to be squeezed to make it stay on, you have the wrong size. The Tom Selleck Western (from a Louis Lamour book) crossfire trail, the last scene has a virtual plethora of late 1800 iron in use by both the good and bad guys. Having an issue with my pietta 44 cal. Youd use either #10 or #11, the 11s being the larger. I remember that ASM was sold to American Western Arms who only produces cartridge revolvers. Theyre fun guns to mess with, but understand the maintenance requirements before spending the money on one. (not by much) sInce they use the .44 barrel boared for .22s, the strength is well past ridiculous, even for the .22 Magnum. A few years ago the trigger just wore out. The only Armi San Marcos gun I have a repro 1858 Remington that I bought in the early 1980s and it works fine. Easier to load and clean. Thanks. Always like the Remington over the Colt design ever since seeing Lorne Greenes on Bonanza as a kid. I have an ASM Colt clone. I like to put some Bore Butter into the mouth of each cylinder on top of each ball. The guns worked flawlessly in stock form when I sold them. Drones are easy to hack or shoot down. CYLINDER, BARREL AND LOADING ASSEMBLY IS BARE METAL. Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858 Look on the revolver barrel or bottom or side of cylinder frame. Theres something fun about putting the Glock 30 away and taking out the Peacemaker. Nice! Years ago ASM had some fine artisans..the guns were good.ASM was under the direction of the Son in Law of Aldo Uberti. For more recent exchange rates, please use the. SOLD Not really outrage, but an eyeroll for sure. Take that, and cross reference it the list below. Bluing shows some wear and 45 Caliber; 95% blue, very good bore, very good stock, 10'' barrel, Mendi .45 caliber black powder reproduction single shot pistol. It was late at night and I could hear my dog fighting with something. This is what the reg provides: The term antique firearm means any firearm (including any firearm with a matchlock, flintlock, percussion cap, or similar type of ignition system)manufactured in or before 1898. We spotted this boxed ASM Walker at a pawn and gun shop at a price I couldn't pass up. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. How consistent are Uberti cap and ball revolver parts? The 1858 is the modern name for the Remington New Model Army/Navy revolvers, which were introduced circa 1863. New in Box-never fired. Any gun made before Jan 1 1999 i is an antique gun, and requires no involvement of an FFL holder. Chat with us; Phone us at (616) 432-6640 . Manufacturer: ARMI SAN MARCO. I shoot them once in a while for old times' sake, and have loaned them out many times, with no problems. Replica Arms was the first importer for ASM revolvers, the first being the 1847 Walker. Fine quality pistol, exhibits high standards of The Colt uses a "rampant" pony where the ASM is a pony just standing. The cylinders are pricey, it cost as much as the gun, but I have gotten over the price and enjoy the heck out of shooting and reloading 45s. One reason is I am new to bp and have no one to ask for help. stan wayback I never did fault him for it even though he was 3000 miles out of his jurisdiction. WebThis conversion cylinder assembly will convert your 1858 Remington ASM, Uberti or Pietta steel or brass .44 cap and ball revolver to fire .22 cartridges. But to me, it just seems that a black powder gun pushing a round ball does not have the ballistics to routinely be lethal on a whitetail deer. This version features improved accuracy. Bluing on the barrel is in very 36 Caliber; 92% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 7.5'' barrel, Westerner's Arms 1851 Navy 6 shot revolver, .36 caliber black powder. 6d 19h left (Thu, 11:33 AM) $29.95 Buy It Now +$7.95 shipping Sponsored Genuine ASM & CVA - Stop Bolt - For Remington 1858 Revolver - Armi San Marco New (Other) $27.95 Buy It Now +$3.99 shipping Sponsored The patent date is 1858. I load as follows: Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Black Powder replica. Howell Conversions - GATED 1858 Remington Pietta .45 LC. Plain walnut grips. The Pistol was so designed, that the hammer when cocked, would suck back with it, the remnants of the cap just fired, which more often than not, would follow the principle of Gravity, so ably demonstrated by Sir Isaac Newton, and fall into the Yawning Gap, the cocked hammer revealed, So when the trigger was pressed for the next shot, there would be a sort of, Scrunch, sound, as the cap was chewed up and mashed by the falling hammer, effectivley jamming the revolver! To sum up, if you want a gun that you can use for Years, Pass it onto your Son, or maybe even your Grandson, buy a steel framed Remington Style Revolver from Either Pietta, or A.Uberti & Son, and with due care and respect, the gun will last several lifetimes! Then little oil and you are set. WebAsm armi san marco 1858 Cylinder Pin #165 Pre-Owned $22.99 weimdog27 (722) 100% Buy It Now Free 3 day shipping Sponsored Armi San Marco MSM inc dual trigger set with adjustment hawken muzzle loader $150.00 eldorablerentals (1,449) 100% Buy It Now +$9.50 shipping Sponsored ARMI SAN MARCO ASMREMINGTON 1858BLUESTEEL Stainless steel. Personally, I think hes nutso! I had a pawl spring break on my late 1980's era EMF 1860 (Armi San Marco). There will be no records if you send a physical order and payment via U.S. Post Office, FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc. Manuals & Instructions Remington 1858 Armi San Marco On the other hand if you order over the Internet, there is a very high probability that at least one U.S. alphabet agency will have a record of your activity. But it's action Oh, it's action REALLY stank. In the beginning, I had a pair of ASM Colt clones. I grew up watching all of the old western movies on TBS. So, they tended to go out of time prematurely, particularly for CAS. FS: "1858" Remington Gun Parts Remington 1858 Blued finish, brass triggerguard, with walnut grips. The used value of an ARMI SAN MARCO pistol has fallen ($12.42) I suggest going to the local gun shop and ask if there are any cowboy action shooters around. In my opinion, I don t think its enough. Not part of Uberti in any wayexcept by marriage. PS: if you want to do more target shooting, but find yourself having to sell your wife, EAA (European/American Arms (Germany) makes some beautiful peacemakers replicas in everything from 44 mag to 22 LR (the latter comes with a second cylinder for the robust little 22 magnum). FINISH SHOWS LIGHT HANDLING WEAR WITH LIGHT WEAR VISIBLE ON THE CYLINDER. Would barrel, cylinders, etc. Pour boiling water down the barrel, than put a couple of dry patches down there, and your bore will be like the detergent advert! The percussion caps are a standard size. ). I take all three to the range regularly in the appropriate recreation leather. THE LOCK IS IN THE WHITE. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. It could not be made to run. Both can be fixed just like Colt fixed them in the day. The one who makes a career of it will begin to stick out like a sore thumb, before long just based on the volume of questionable facts he spouts. Web44 Caliber; very good+ bore, good grips, 7.75'' barrel, Pietta .44 caliber Remington 1858 style six shot black powder revolver in nickel plate finish. The 1858 Remington is a single-action, cap-and-ball percussion revolver, usually .44 caliber, although versions were also made in both .31 and .36 calibers. Bluing shows wear and scratches overall with a turn ring and wear to the notches on the cylinder. Actions 44 BP; 60% blue, fair bore, fair grips, 7.75'' barrel, Made in Italy. 44 BP; fair bore, good stock, 4'' barrel, Made in Spain. Rare US coins, Carson City, Nevada history, Redheads. Used, grip strap wear and shows handling. Thanks for giving some info on the handgun side of the black powder world. It was stiff, clunky, and in the words of a couple of different pards, "painful to watch" me trying to use it. ASM Remington 1858 Replica .44 Cap My first BP was a 1861 Colt Navy in .36. what ever happen to "army san marcos" guns That's your build date. Grand Army /Frontier
Lightning Manual. The strong Remington frame made it fairly easy to convert the pistol over to metallic cartridge use, as firearms technology rapidly advanced after the Civil War. Unless the revolvers were actualy made before Jan 1. Remington. Click on the "Full Description" fore more info. ", Colt cap-and-ball revolvers usually dont [have] safety notches.. WebThat isn't going to be the case with the Italian replicas, but more often than not the answer is easily found stamped on the revolver. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Gauge: 44 percussion. By Looks a lot like the Ruger. Hooray for water! I might be wrong about this! Armi San Marco 1858 I like that yall are diversifying the content a little bit. No feeder, but a scoped .243 at 75 yards (distance to the tree line) no one calls it hunting. swap out ok between the same model like the 1860 Army? Got one of each. I send one of their revolvers back after opening it. Swapping barrels can involve fitting the arbor to the barrel sometimes. Exc condition, appears unfired. Our governor says that they can melt when shot I have a few black powder guns I have hunted with them for years and have yet seen one melt down .But the Local store here wont order one for you. How interchangeable are Uberti gun parts I purchased it new from EMF in 1986. There is research indicating that chain fires are probably caused by sparks getting under loose-fitting percussion caps. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. Remington. date of manufacture for Italian replica six Second, every forum has those who will not allow an absence of knowledge interfere with their conveyance of information. What are those little balls for? surrounded by 9 .44 chambers. .44 Cal percussion. 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Treat he hammer with the same respect you treat the trigger. Not to mention that shooting 58 Remington reproduction is just an absolute hoot. Either way, a good dose of lube also helps keep the black powder fouling moist and pliable, and easier to clean out. In 1993, the Hartford line was introduced by E.M.F. The greatest going away gift I ever got in my 25 years in the Army was the Uberti 1873 with my name and callsign engraved on the barrel that the guys in my battalion gave me when I left command. Rust and pitting on metal. Barrel: 12 inch The nature of the weapon makes no difference; one is just as deadly, and in the same way as the other. I had one of the Pietta 1858 Remingtons and while I enjoyed shooting it and learning about the history and evolution of firearms, the cleaning requirements are intense. Grips for the Uberti 1873 Cattleman El Patron Grizzly Paw New Model as well as the 1860 and 1872 Colt army made by Cimarron, Pietta and Uberti. Barrel: 12 inch Put the caps in the back and shoot. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. Modern Reproduction Web* Armi San Marco, copy of Remington Model 1858, .44 cal, s/n 61367, black powder revolver. (They are still remarkably cheap in both .25 and 32-20, but good luck if you lose the magazine.) Armi San Marco is still making guns and they are known for making guns with bad workmanship. WOODEN STOCK IS VERY GOOD WITH LIGHT HANDLING WEAR 36 Caliber; 80% blue, very good bore, very good grips, 8'' barrel, REPRODUCTION NEW MODEL NAVY REVOLVER IN GOOD CONDITION.. The conversion cylinders are also not regulated, so you can get all of those you want and no one has any record of it.. LIGHT HIGH-EDGE WEAR NEAR MUZZLE. Ive been thinking of getting one since I recently watched Pale Rider. They supplied American retailers with replica firearms over the 1960s thru 1990s. Minor handling dings - see photos Standard 8" octagon barrel. Used, showing light wear and handling, turn line on cylinder. BORE IS IN FAIR CONDITION. View more auctions here. There was no penetration, but the deer died where I hit it. There is a wide variance in rifles, and I have seen it claimed that range is no more than 100 yards. Most folks shoot them with charges down in the 20-grain range. The firing pin broke on the 3 or 4th shot. He would also GIVE to Government Officials, very fine engraved Pistols, beautifully engraved with Silver of Gold, to U.S. I would advise ANYONE beginning Black Powder Revolver Shooting, do NOT ever buy the Colt Style Guns, and steer WELL AWAY, from any Cap &Ball Revolver that has a Brass Frame! FS: "1858" Remington Gun Parts My question is, How close to the Old Army is this Pietta 1858 New Army .44 cal? On opening day he is in his blind and simply waits for a really good buck to come along. Is that what i just shot down with my 5 1/2 inch 1858? I just purchased an ASM replica of a 1858 Remington 44 and was wondering if anyone had any information about it. I love it. back for a Christmas gift for his son. even the center fire 45-70 and the 45 colt cowboy rounds are NOT considered a fire arm, due to the FACT that they use slower burning black powder to fire them! WebBuy a Armi San Marco 1858 Remington Replica Italian made .44 Remington 1858 Replica by manufacturer Armi San Marco. .. when I first tried sass back in the nineties this brand was Quite popular .. now that Ive returned to sass after ten plus year, never here or see any thing , Just curious mostly as they been sit in in my safe for over ten years.. they were fun to shoot for someone who couldn't afford real guns like me STAN. Silliness aside, I had little to no interest in black powder until I was at the range next to an older fellow firing rounds through an old muzzle loader rifle. As for the black powder, read the manual, page 10 in mine. I have owned a dozen or more 1860 Army copies. Original blued finish, case colored frame, brass trigger guard and backstrap.