Chohan Guru Govind Singh, at the creation of the Khalsa said Jab jay gay biprin ke reet, mein na karon enki pratteet ie that those who wish to come into Khalsa they must reject Brahminism and its practises. hum sabhi chamaro ka surname ek kyu nahi hai. However, when very low caste sikhs migrated to countries such as the US, Canada and the UK, they thought of it as a chance to start a clean slate where people would not be able to identify their caste. Understood. Jagdish Sharma you Hindus believe in caste but us Sikhs dont, we Sikhs have similar and same surnames, thank god none of them are Hindu ones We have no relation or similar surnames to Hindus so you cant shut the fuck up. I am mehmi chamar and i am proud to be a chamar, I often find many persons comment that they are proud to be a Chamar . ?..PLZ DO REPLY ITS REALLY URGENT. Katkar. Jai Guru Dev. brahmin is entitled to do job of self akshtriy n vais while marry in all 4 caste , akshtriy do job of self n vais while marry in 3 caste , vais do job of self n marry in 2 caste n sudra do job n marry in 1 caste only . You and other Human being are what matters rest is all superficial. This is happening in my village, there are many cases and you find CHOOREY CHAMAARS not cleaning the toilets but breeding like rats with higher caste piples. People who dont have knowledge of Shastra or veda is not a pundit. There are still those who oppose our emancipation, those want to keep us poor and vulnerable so as to provide them with the cheap labour that they require. I am sorry as a brahmin that you have to go through this. Vairry nu puttha tangiye.. Start respecting Bhagat Ravidas jis bani, start to understand that Dera Ballan and similar authorities have no influence or involvement in us ravidassia sikhs, plz add Garwa Nimal Kala Alaria as chamar surname, The DAS is missing from the list, pls. Orientation. Chamar - Wikipedia There are those chamars who have broken away from the above mainfold of Ravidassia Sikhs or those who were never sikhs in the first place and have formed their own religion and are followers of Dera ballan and have their own religious book called the Amrit Bani they call themselves neither sikhs nor hindus and yet call themselves as Ravidassias. Jab bhi Tere sister (Bahan) ko lan ki jarurat ho kisi bhi chamar ke pas bhej dena. Chamar | Hindu caste | Britannica Budhist hone k karan sab kuch china gaya atyachar sosan apmanit huye. I have heard and read some comments made by some jatts that the chamars are moolighting jatt surnames so as to pass as jatts. industrial minister of haryana).punia also jat bisnoi. Lets get this right VIRK are not chamar they are Jatt lets fix that up! No one is high or low, his behaviour/actions make so.His mother can tell who is he as manusmarti confirms mother brahmin/sudra father issue be chandal whoose services were rana/rani Harischand/tara. I love ths comunity. I share your sentiments and agree with most of what youve said. And that is where they borrowed the concept of race. 1. Not caste. Jai Bhim [16], A section of Chamars claimed Kshatriya status as Jatavs, tracing their lineage to Krishna, and thus, associating them with the Yadavs. People who believe in caste from Sikh religion are not real Sikhs because in Sikhism their is no caste. It is also the 1,083,225 th most frequently used given name at a global level. Aaj ham acchi position me aa rahe hai dheere dheere. The king chastised Vishnu for reciting the Vedas, an act forbidden for a Shudra. Youre Fucking Pathetic,I am a Sikh Jatt but I think that you shouldnt really blame chamars for being who they are,you shouldnt talk bad about people and I feel sorry for your children mate,having a horrible parent like you!!!!! At that point they curse the brahmins for creating this wretched caste system. I do agree with the lady that we talk too much about caste on religious events, and would much rather listen to gurbani and keertan on such events, than the ramblings of several community leaders/ politicians on caste. It dont just has a powerful LED backlight. bina akal ke hi hum tumhe apne under me rakhte hai aur aka;l laga di to tab kya hoga socha hai kabhi .. Toh tum kya socthe ho bus tum hi harami ban sakte ho kya hum harami toh tum humase bhi jyada harami ho hamare pass to 20-30% reservation h tum logo ke pass toh 70% h fir bhi rothe hi rahte ho so sad ;( beta ye manu ke rule ni chate ab india me Plus the context in which the list was made is trying to convey the meaning that these exclusively Chamar names..which they are not. - SC Jati List Bruuuuah! Toori. But we are Momi Gorta which is not showing in the list. Stay blessed people. Virk The idiots think we are criticising the Bhagat Ji!! Yes your right I know jatt from other religions but your ego needs to chill, your still classed as a shudra if you believe in caste lol. plus a USB port to be able to connect the thumb push, 0081001500006681 A few Rajput gotras are also found in Chamar community which is the result of intermixing of some Rajput clans with lower castes to save themselves from the onslaught of Muslim invaders. You have your own new religion now so its about time you stop going on about your identities and start respecting what you believe. We should try to understand our Sikh history what our Sikh Bhagats and Sikj Gurus did for equality and the Han race. 8, S: 271-271). i proud of my caste , history and background culture. They helped to capture thousands of hindi speaking soldiers mostly Chamars of UP and Bihar who revolted against Britishers in Lahore Cantonment. they should proud of their caste but not humiliate to others. Most of the actors and actresses are from the higher castes. It has got four HDMI advices, as properly. Saru says. The god then revealed his true self, and cursed his lineage to become Chamars, who would be lower in status than the Shudras. all of u be bold yr agar self introspection karge bbat samajh mein aaayegi ki sabhi ka pita ek hi h or wo h upar wala. I am a Sahota myself and I have Sandhu/Kalsi friends who ARE CHAMAR and no other caste! chamar ka sirunchaa rakhhna he to pehle hum kisiko satate nhi aur hum skill se agey aate he reservation se nahi ye sabit karo warna panguu k panguu hi rahoge yaad rakhna, Mai Orissa ka ek chamar hun or mai chamar caste honeka hamesa proud feel karta gun,hum kuch educated person milke ek committee gadhke gaon gaon ghum k logoko rabidas baba k bare me samjhate hen,or hum ko uchhe barg k logon kis tarah se dalit karte hen us bare mai samjhate hen. police reservation ki bahot bada adda he we all know how police help criminals and harass victims . i am confused. I proud chamar now. I am a jatt. The purpose of books such as Manusmriti, Mahabharta and Ramayan was to keep the low castes oppresses in perpetuity and so that they would never rise again to challenge the Brahmins and the Brahminical system. I m chamar.vil. Director, Developing Caste Welfare Block No. Remove this name from your last names list. Sandhu is another of those names. IF any sikh do great job or work he will called by Sikh not by ur caste, True sikh choode likhar muh doh k aa apne aapa dekh pahla saale, true sikh waali sik jatton ko de yaar ye baat unhe samja We should all stand-up to oppression. Dabi surname belong to Rajputana. But your pride and arrogance blinds you. Second we need eduction and lot of it, How? is not indicating false pride of jat race that their bahu of kunbi caste claiming rajput while jodha married to mugal akbar happily accepted n kept raja mansing in his service. your are a racist by your own comments .everybody is equal in the sight of God and men . Banke Chamar is freedom fighter and Rebellion of 1857 first independence revolt of India. I was told by a Sikh that there is caste in Sikhism , is that correct or not. Vinod Kumar Kairay gotra ke jathere kahan hai koi bata skta hai kya plzzzz its vry urgent, Ghoter bare jankari wadia ha par tusi OK ghoter bhul gae Bhoondpal ja pal. KALSON is also a chamar surname Jatav | Encyclopedia.com I agree with you 100%! Nobody from the Punjab work for them on little land they have and the baheeye who worked for them have also decided to return to U.P and Behar because those states are now thriving economically because the skills they have learned in the Punjab they are applying these skills there. Nd i belongs to chamar cast, Add Sampla and Maman and Suman!!! thankyou You will find among us Sharmas, Banerjees, Singhs . Also, thank you for permitting me to comment!Best10, VIRK is only Jatts surname not of any other caste u should correct it. I need to find the kula deivata asap. Many chamars were infact rajputs. The problem with the jatts, from my experience of dealing with them as friends, is that they are often poorly educated on the subject and dont know that quite a lot of the surnames in the Punjab cut across castes. Thanks. Rawal means "king," and is derived from the Sanskrit word "Raja" with the same meaning. Doesnt matter what caste you are, it is all man made. Please clarify my doubt. Bhardwaj is not a chamar last name. i.e Brahmins, Kshatriyas, Baniyas and Sudras. Dear Jatt bhai, dont blame you for your nasty comment, i pity on your parents and your upbringing that you are talking like this. Bhagat Ravidas, Bhagat Kabir and Bhagat Namdev started foundation of Sikhism. but i think untill unless u people tell others that u are chamar by caste this will nt cm to end. You are a minoroty, majority Chamar are natural born Sikhs. Hindu religion again in the hands of the Brahmins. Special Note:- The said committee works for the upliftment of poor and sick old people, children and women at the social level. Excellent Analysis of high caste power and corruption in India and how the low castes can gain political power in India for their betterment. it will make u comfertable and they too would take it easily after practising. thank u navneet kumar ji we have to strengthen our community by encouraging them. Also Sahota & Sandhu are common surnames amongst chamar & Jatt. For the mountain in Nepal, see. As The illuminated said above there are some organization which focus on eliminating caste discrimination in West Midland area. Bains surname vi add kr deyo pls. - , ( ), | | :-, | || You can take our last names, but remember we can tell your chamar from your ugly ass faces. thank you Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. u may not have created this. brahmin married sudra biash born . Madarchodo tum pandito ne mandir mein ganta hi bajayaa hai . Classical example the chauhans or chohans. 75 % kota genral walea da aaa .jisne kuch krna usne 75% mein sb kuj kr lena .aur jisne kuch ni krna usse 25% mein kuch ni krna..aur baat krte ho rsvartions ki 25% kota sc st hena.jino 25% mein kuch ni kr skte wo 75% mein b kuch ni kr skte.jihna ne kuch krna hunda na oh cast ni dekhde na resrvationssrf apne goal val thyan dinde t aaa t ohnu Status and caste is what Hindus believe in. Im pretty sure theay sunds are chamars but their is not on here, This is all bull shit. who lives in cherry hills village; buffalo st patrick's day parade 2021; gabriella made in chelsea net worth; are shelley long and bette midler friends Its simple as that ! Same way Chamar also fought with Aurangzeb under Satnami revolution . Majority of your community disagree with you al and do not want anything to do with you. As a brother I feel it is not required .Reason is clear that is whatever U do nothing is going to change as for as society is concern. These include: Jassal, kainth, heer, sandhu, bhatti, sahota, sidhu, kalsi, chopra, walia, bhola, johal, virdi, chahal, athwal and more for all I know. I have been reading your exchange with that coward who does not understand Sikhism and caste. We r taking abut chamars here cunt ,u can move ur ass out of here sucker, Here Are some some list of chamar surnames, 1.Sampla bahanchod ne aadhe surname to jatt ke daal rakhe hai jaise singh,singhmar,sandhu,bal,bhatti,sarao etc. The term chamar is derived from Chanwar/Chawar which is used as a pejorative word for dalits in general. WE, CHAMARS ARE THE DESCENDANT OF RAVIDAS JI AND ALWAYS PROUD OF IT .. OM SHRI SADAGURU RAVIDASAY NAMAH . Its a shame this has happened, when full respect and highest honour is given to Bhagat Ravidassia Ji from all Sikhs. It is you who will go to hell as in Gods house intolerance is decided on earth, as in LOVE, FORGIVENESS, AND UNDERSTANDING. Recognize the Lords Light within all, and do not consider social class or status; there are no classes or castes in the world hereafter. Will u accept it ???? I have come across persons from different castes showing so much affection towards each other because they share the same surname. Dear Bitta can you translate your comments in hindi or english because I cannot read punjabi. Surnames (Basra, Jassal and Kainth- are Tonk Kshatriya, Kalsi & Sahota are Ramgarhiya Tarkhan and Bhardwajs are Brahmins) in the above lists of castes of CHAMARS are absolutely wrong. The Brahmins have divided them into so many castes and sub castes that they do not get on with each other and dont unite and therefore do not pose a challeng to the Brahmincal rule or the system they have created. Padmane. The very name SAPTSINDU defined the natural and national boundaries of India. SANDHU is not a Chamar they are well know Jatt caste, brave and notorious, This is among traditional Indian last names. it is also one of the common surname in ravidasia. I knew a guy whose last name was Chahal and I always thought that he is a Punjabi Jutt . Jatt was consider a lower sudra class with the passage of time they manage to rule once in nearby area of Delhi. SS all bhagats and gurus rejected Hinduism. His name is Nohrya Mall. SO creat good n happyness TO enjoy the fruit. I appreciate your reply to me at mksharma55@gmail.com, Hates of you man who proudly say they are chamar because they know caste dont matter only your achievements matter I am from a high caste Srivastav I never make fun of any lower caste for me everyone is at same level . So all workmen like zimidars, carpenters , blacksmiths , goldsmiths , weavers , artisans leather workers , shoe makers all were clubbed as sudras since they worked for other three Varnas to provide them with services. 3. Yes fair enough i accept that by marrying out of caste she is obviously not castist. cadre),Mr, karipa Ram punia(i.a.s.haryana cadre,ex. He is not illiterate but ignorant and blind because when he gets his proper education and knowledge and accepts the truth only then will he be able to see the truth, which he refuses to accept. Too much wishful thinking imho. ARE YOU THAT FUCKING LOW AND IGNORANT NOT TO KNOW WHO YOU SHITS REALLY ARE? They started a revolution to help the low castes to break away the shakles of the caste sytem. Wow thats new to me, so you can determine if someones brave or kind by there surname. chamar caste surnames list in up - friendsofbca.com I love guru nanak ji quote before becoming a Muslim, a sikh, a Hindus or a Christian lets become a human first. locality: charkhi dadri,bhiwani. 5. Our ancesters used to skin an animal in less than fifteen minutes and now their decedents -US- inherited the skill and capable of skinning nasty people like you within fifteen seconds. Also ANTI CASTE DISCRIMINATION ALLIANCE. 44% of politicians are Brahmins. Ill add more when I remember. Great grandfather : Rakha Ram