really cant tell the differences from the pictures but the price is so low that caught my eyes, Does anyone know if these guys are legit http://www.cheapclubsgolf.com. Congratulations to owning up to your moment of stupidity but more importantly this is yet another perfect example to all of us of the corruption that abounds with golf clubs and the world wide web. All clubs are made in china. Carlsbad, CA 92008 Thanks for your help. There is something to be said for cheap labor in fulfilling our American thirst for products, but it also opens the doors for problems like we are discussing here. Further to my original post re http://www.golfleading.com and my dispute via Paypal. Thanks! However, cobra told me golfetail was legit and not to worry about any counterfeit products. Thanks. Miura is a relatively small forge in Japan, founded by Katsuhiro Miura. by the way this was not a company selling on eBay, but they do advertise as a wholeseller who will dropship directly so some eBayers may be selling there fake products. I would not recommend. Buying from a reputable retail store and yes paying a little extra not only gives you peace of mind, but the clubs are under warranty for 1-2 years as well. they are counterfeit and fake and wont deliver all your order!! Miura VS Seven Golf - Japanese Equipment - MyGolfSpy Forum Tour issue clubs have a serial number that starts with a T. www.taylormadegolf.com Hi there Clue one: Unbelievable prices. Your first item on your check list member feedback can be misleading. cancel order Does anyone have experience with http://www.clubsandsticks.com/ or http://www.budgetgolf.net? Higgins, Russell I have been looking at their site and whilst it is not as cheap as some it still cheap and they are based in China. remarks appear as if they are coming from brain dead individuals? Yeah, right. we get clubs from the qualified OEM,mainly made for Hongkong and Japanese market I also checked the serial numbers with Taylormadethey are counterfeit. Pictures of each individual face as well. * Company sales in 2002 must be $100,000 or greater; 2006 sales must not exceed $1 billion Basically, if it is too good to be true, it is. I believe this company is selling fake clubs, does anyone have any experience of dealing with them ? How about $850. I purchased a Ping G15 driver from golfmartdiscount for $169 with free shipping. has anyone bought any knock off sets of ping G15 and had good quality? shed some strong light on the high markup our golf manufacturers enjoy. Good luck. You are not a good enough golfer to know the difference but if you were to replace your fake clubs with the real thing, you would knock a few strokes or more off your handicap and no longer be handicapped by crap clubs made by people who are undermining everyones economy. If the price is too good to be true, the clubs are FAKES. sale, wl tel: A: We are an Authorized Internet Retailer of only new equipment from all the name-brand manufacturers including Callaway, TaylorMade, Clevelend, Titleist, Ping, Mizuno, Odyssey, Nike, etc We do not sell questionable copy cat clubs, but we do carry a variety of quality starter and intermediate sets as well for you golfers just starting out. Wish I had seen your article before doing so. A: Yes, you will get a confirmation email once payment confirmed or package shipped. Well that was water wet. Guys that sell 2-5 clubs at a time once or twice a year. Surely someone with a reasonable command of the English language would say clubs, bags, balls, hat, gloves etc. You would think they would be smart enough to at least copy and paste an American-sounding response to your emails. Fax : 86-010-2994895-111 Of course living in Fairhaven I told them I needed to go over to the company headquarters and speak w/ someone about the legit.. of the club. That may happen for some of the lesser brands of clubs but I am sure the more ethical manufacturers such as Titleist or Ping would not allow anything of the sort. Visit http://www.rockbottomgolf.com/nike-golf-2012-machspeed-x-irons.html# to have a look for your self. (odd to say I know) I paid using PayPal, which appears to be doing nothing at all for me, and AMEX. They are praying on suckers who type into their Google search engine words like golf clubs, bargain, discount, wholesale, wharehouse, online, rockbottom, cheap, super cheap, extra super cheap, really extra super cheap.. You have got to be joking about golfonlinewholesale.com. You just saved me a ton of money with your site Thank You. First off I just want to thank u for this blogit has really opened my eyes to this world of fake clubs. All, I just see that 2nd Swing has put up a set of obviously fake Miura MC-501s on their website. thanks, I meant ebay for that matter. Other than that that these were very good counterfeits with only very mimimal differences from the genuine Ping clubs. AGREE with the above. Stay away from Golf Leadingthey are fakes from China!!!! Registrant Postal Code: 322000 They have some great shots of the back and front of the clubs, it is a good opportunity to see on of the prevalent fakes. In the meantime, I have found 8 other auctions on Ebay for just Talormade clubs which I am sure are from the same seller even though the email address is different for most of them. To close the loop on this, I emailed Miura with the links and research. Ping Has anyone puchased any clubs from GolfDiscount.com? The only reason I even attempted to buy clubs from them was because they were one of the only places that had a discontinued model of irons (TaylorMade Burner 2.0s in black finish) that I so desperately wanted. ************************************************************ Some guy states that he won a set of clubs at a tournament, yet that he`s not good enough to use them. They have some unbelievable prices on clubs (AP2s for $360) The site have some broken english on the descriptions, but their site phone number is an Chicago area code. I am looking for some PING irons and they sell these at a lower price than in the shop. Although i wasnt happy being called a Muppet i didnt really mind as this saved me alot of money, and saved me getting into trouble with ebay!! This information has been very helpful. ns1.ename.cn Most manufacturers do not offer a way for you to verify whether or not a serial number is authentic. Despite repeated e-mails and phone calls I have had no satisfaction. Does anyone know anything about that site? Golf goods and equipment in Rochester, NY Look for the sign posts. If they are counterfeit they usually will not like answering these. welcome to our custom service! Ask them some general questions about the stuff you are looking at, like if it is authentic or not, if it is a club or set of clubs ask if you can get the serial #s off of them, and make sure to check out their feedback. If you need a dealer..message me .he charges less then others. I cant even feel comfortable going there anymore. I also read quite a few good reviews about the company. That was the first sign but it was already too late. Headcover not fur lined, The shaft sticker lists the Cameron website as www.Scotty Oameron.com When I contacted them, I was given the old OEM line etc. Thankfully, the counterfeit golf club issue has slowed some in the last couple of years thanks to people being more aware of the problem. I even played a round of golf with one of the reps from the store and even he could not tell the difference in performance wise between the real or fake ones. It may be a company email address. Upload or insert images from URL. Hes been using his new clubs and they look great. Has anybody purchased golf clubs from igolftimes.com? after seeing this site im concerned about the authenticity. Has anyone dealed with http://www.golfwholesalemarket.com? Now, it will be interested to see what happens when the driver is delivered because one, it had a 30 day money back guarantee and two, because he paid with a credit card he feels he might be able to dispute the charges if he finds that the item is counterfeit. One in particular is golfwholesale18 and Ive read a couple of posts here where someone was questioning whether to purchase or not and another who did purchase from them. How about http://www.golfclubsequipments.com? Sunogolf also have very cheap fake clubs I know I made the mistake and didnt listen to all the others that bought from them. WRX Spotlight Review: Miura KM-009 putter - GolfWRX I am not sayig eBay isnt a great place to shop for clubs, but you really have to look at what your bidding on as it could be a fake. Clear editor. Machspeed str8 driver. I have a set of Wilson made Arnold Palmer signature clubs marked Personal with Reg No 37380 and would like to find out any information on them. Miura Unveils Its First PGA Tour Ambassador In A Grouping With - Forbes Im considering looking into the law about a name and shame list not that I can stop it just make people aware, there are some websites that list them but not great as I found out theres to many forums and not enough Help/ action that my opinion. If you would like to be considered as part of our golf ball test panels, please take a moment to complete the information below. Not to mention the care in packaging. Im not sure what all that means but I have sent them an email with a demanded response within 24 hours. Status: clientTransferProhibited, Expiration Date: 2011-04-07 Cobra F6 3, 4 hybrids Matrix Red Tie Stiff No phone #. Have they only got one golf towel or is that Chinese speak for golf towels. Thanks. Im seeing about 10 yards additional distance with each club over my previous set (RAM Tours). I looked at the greatgolfdeals.com web site. The image of the head of the 5 iron that RBG shows on their website for this club is turned at a different angle compared to all of the other websites and their pictures of the same club. My clubs havent arrived yet but based on this site and my buying experience, I am confident I made a good purchase. Do you believe it? EmperorPenguin Oh my goodness! Brien glad to see your comments on the topic. This guy pays for a business license to sell products wholesale. I am experiencing problems with your RSS. : Have you ever noticed the exception wording on any of the sales you see from any of the big retailers. So Ebay traders that dont operate from a shop as well, cannoit get their brands to sell. Is this counterfeit clubs? So I sold the set I had just purchased with the intention of getting a new set with the changes already made. The quality difference between the two can be remarkable between the two. It used to be that all their serial numbers were actually etched into the metal. My second clue should have been that the company was based in China. Province: Fujian Same scam dif sites. Registrar History: 1 registrar I just thought I would say that not all club makers on e-bay are looking to scam people. The seller is Designer Golf Apparel and equipment, for location they have east coast of US, and they also have NO RETURNS on the listing. I have just come across this thread after seeing a number of obviously fake or quite suspicious websites out there selling clubs. All of them show Chicago. New Arrival - GOLF Partner USA | Used Golf Club Shop In this case theyve ripped off the RapidSSL logo and stuck it on their website. Firstjust want to say sorry Keitthe X-22s were probably by far the most counterfeited club this year. Has anyone heard of this website ? With this in mind, lets get started with some general tips on spotting the differences between a counterfeit and authentic club. So is hurricane golf have real/legit golf clubs? I tracked prices for a few days after purchase(I was shocked to see that I won this $270 set of clubs for $120). Dont buy from them, is written fake all over it, if you weant to ask them, they surely wont have any left handed and compare with golfsmit or tgw.comthe difference in the price should convice you that they are indeed fake if you want to pay less , try globalgolf.com for use set ( if they have one). Anything else, please feel free to contact us. Any bad shots are MY fault I thought I would share my 2 cents for anyone thinking about buying from them. the typhoon in guangzhou. Feel ease to buy from Empire Golf. I live in U.K. and have been searching for a new set of clubs on the internet and came across your very useful pages. The newest featured product: V-Foil forged clubs. They figure it will make it look more authentic I suppose. I found it at GreatGolfDeals.com and theyre selling a couple of the colors at 619 (probably the slow selling ones) vs. the 709 for others. Many friends have tried my clones and find no dropoff in performance. Degenerates. Dont buy from this site. Clue two: No physical address. Loved this read. Looking at the X-22 irons on Ebay, it appears to me that a whole bunch of them are almost certainly fakes. Yes I had read that article previously. They even put on their site that they are an authorized Muzuno sales organization. The magnet did not stick. chuanglianwangluokeji The 6 of yours doesnt look right either. But Tag requires stores to sell at a certain price point so as to not compete with each other. I just recently purchased an 08 Cobra Speed LD F Fairway 3 wood from garagesalegolf and I was satisfied with my experience. Besides the Miura MB-001 irons, these are the next most beautiful in their line up. It's fun to scoff at and make fun of but people are getting ripped off. I saw there site too and saw they had Mizuno MP-52 clubs w/steel shafts for $349.99 and I went to my local pro shop and they were listed for $899.99. My best friend travels their three to four times a year. I called the golfetail customer service and Jacob fixed it up for me! Does anybody know? Registrant Phone: +86.85283408916 I will link pictures here, seems you cant upload a Foto. We did a random survey of 100 golf club listings on EBAY a couple months ago and our Golf Club Scam Alert System found that there was a high-probability that 24 of those listings were FAKES! Hi That was apparently when they ripped off the logo from somewhere else to make their website. Of course, it wouldn't make any difference how Miura golf clubs look if they didn't excel in the right hands on the course or at the range. Or am I just being paranoid now and should trust what the store sells?? Budget Golf: xxxxxxxxxxxx.com really a legitimate outlet? Based on that, my take would be that they are legit and clubs are authentic with that much trade they clearly have buying power and hence probably get clubs at bulk rates. Its money for them, that is the simple bottom line, and they dont really care about fraud. A2C2 Counterfeit Parts Testing. We have two bags the other was bought in the USA from a shop, thus they are both similar. Clue one: Free shipping. Ive contacted them to refund my money and I will return the clubs. We are sincere to cover this matter amicably and easily. Stay away. Thanks for adding us Spanky Yeah the stores are a much more reputable place to buy clubs these days. If clones are the market you are looking into they are the best in that market for sure Bob. I hit them and feel seems authentic, but I am not an expert. I dont care what brand it is as I know your website is totally genuine, just send me the best youve got. USA Remember pictures of golf clubs are easily copied from the manufacturers websites and therefore will give the appearance of the genuine article. ; Aragons; Asturianu; ; Bn-lm-g; ; () ; Bosanski why wud u even look at those places ever?. Added it to the accidental post I made above. Thanks. Counterfeit TaylorMade SpeedBlade Face. Well the big OEMs will tell youthe benefits and rewards (profitsgo figure) are just much larger then the risk of someone knocking off their club. where is your company based? All the golf clubs sold on our website are all made by every brandcompanys authorized manufacturer which can be called grey import products.In the eyes of the brandcompany those are fake,as it is not from the informal sources ,but they are really made by the authorized manufacturer. These guys are a complete rip off so dont touch them with a pole. They claim to sell Brand New Titleist AP2 for $299? Feel sad, very embaressed. United States 5 Testers Needed! Thank you so much for interesting in our clubs and website. I think I may have just ordered some fake Callaway X-22 irons. Also a great tip for fake Scotty Camerons is when they spell Scotty Scottie and when there are many listings of the same club with the same picture. Here is a list of Callaway authorized online retailers. Anyone that Im still trying to get some money back, and they stoppped replying to my emails. Scotty Squareback and Odyssey OG #7, Srixon ZX5 MKII Irons 4-PW Like New and a Titleist U505 4 Iron, OG Nike TW13 PING i59 irons Vessel Stand bag (trade), BGT Stability tour black with Scotty Cameron pistolini grip. They have 75k sales, so is this just OEM mass production prices? Postal (zip) code appears legit. exists at all. An even better option is second hand clubs. http://taylormadegolf.com/shared-customer-service/customerService-authorizedonline.html Hey i just bought a set a Vega irons off ebay for $700, just wondering if thats sounds to good, i think retail is like 1200. Rockbottom gets their inventory from pro shops, golf courses, and other types of retailers that are going out of business. hello everyone, I just bought a set of callaway x22 irons, 5-pw on ebay from a shop called If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Any help would be appreciated. disclaims any and all warranties, expressed or implied, for any merchandise offered on this site. Most of the rip-off online stores have old inventories (Nike platinum) or regular-priced golf balls. Could you please tell me what is ill-founded or unqualified about that? The rest of the set was brand new/never hit. Registrant Name: Brandgolfclubs The difference is the counterfiters use inferior materials in the molds. Hi Everyone, Hot Launch is game-improvement sets for the player wanting to lower their handicap. I am not good enough to know where the IP is from or how to check. I just purchased a complete set of Nike Slingshot 3,4 & 5 hybrid and 6-PW, Taylormade 2009 Burner and 3-wood, and 3 TM gloves through Ebay from Golfetail.com. Are the material content in those fake clubs same as the original ones? dealer of callaway clubs, so I think there is He played the golf as better improve. due to parenthood. Every counterfeit club we have seen uses a laser and is not etched into the metal. Buyer beware - Miura fakes - Miura fakes - Toronto Golf Nuts They also have two stores in Michigan that look legit. I saved the convos to use if they are fake. tome will tell, Those look nice but you didn't answer my question :). http://www.golfetail.com. So what does OEM mean? Good communication and they packaged up my club with care, using plenty of bubble wrap as padding. The Titleist Miura Forged Replica irons released in 1998. So from what Im learning is sometimes you just might luck out and get a decent quality equipment even though they may be counterfeit, but more than likely, youre taking a big chance. The fake golf clubs ARE NOT made with the same materials. According to to him, he guarantees his stuff to be authentic but now after reading all these posts im starting to worry that these clubs are fake. The about us citation will read something like: We sell genuine golf club to you. Includes the same "Titanium Alloy" spec, This smells odd to me. Thank you. are these authentic clubs if not and i recieve them can I get a full refund? Does this mean the clubs are bogus???? Current estimates show this company has an annual revenue of $17,518,000 and employs a staff of approximately 43. I didnt know anyone did anymore. as the Brand name clubs. The thin top-line of the club gives it a very clean feel at address. No one likes scrolling through all the old comments to finally get to the most recent. I repeat; YOU CANNOT BUY GOLF CLUBS STRAIGHT FROM THE FACTORY., IF THE GOLF CLUBS ARE FROM CHINA, THEY ARE FAKE!!!. I like the driver but I would not buy from them anymore. Registrant Name: Chen Sun Cobra is a subsidiary of German-based Puma SE. Registrant Email: Administrative Contact: Fake clubs from China ChongQing I am now having dispute with them or over charging me 5Xluckily i check my bank for amount transacted and now waiting for them to cancel or face dispute. I found out that the clubs were shipped from China and then I confronted them with why they sell counterfeit clubs to unsuspecting peoplethey didnt want to answer my question but did tell me that they would fully refund my purchasenot too smart because I had already denied the charges. Has anyone bought from this site. Saw a show on 60 minutes about fake golf clubs from China. Wow, Ive been looking for a site like yours for ages. shared pages like your linkedin profile, Facebook page or twitter feed? Even if the price is nearly the same.BEWARE.buy from a pro that can fit you on a flightscope monitor or TRACKMAN and buy direct from the factory. as well as honest reporting on the latest issues affecting the game Id be interested in making a purchase for the irons if you could throw in a tour bag for 100 instead of the 199, would this sale be possible? Do the big sales come in October or November? (dba Rock Bottom Golf) Domain Name : golfleading.com Thank you for contacting Mizuno USA. Come on man, WAKE UP! Though the U.S. economy loses out on the input, both direct and indirect of that production in the U.S. GDP, then the U.S. government is sent to spend millions in resources to protect the companies ability to do so. 575 8th Avenue 11th Floor Also, carls golfland out of michigan says they are a recognized dealer of callaway clubs. So my opinion is that the brands and the golf associations whom keep promoting golf and making billions should start to provide a better awareness about fake golf manufactures. : REGISTER.COM, INC. There are a couple of manufacturers that allow you to register your clubs on their website. Shape is different. My warning to any website with names such as this one. Congratulations on scoring some Miuras. * Must have a minimum level of sales growth or a sales growth quantifier of 1 or higher between 2002 and 2006; the growth quantifier is a measurement that combines percentage and absolute growth. Lifes too short to quibble over little stuff! poor grammar and all but would like to know what someone elses thouhgts were. Counterfeit products are big business - fake Rolex watches, Gucci handbags and Prada shoes can be found easily worldwide. Why on Earth would a golf website say golf clubs, golf bags, golf balls, golf hats, golf gloves, golf socks etc. I found out later that they were counterfeits. I filed the complaint this AM with PayPal and checked my Email shortly after. Ive looked at their Ebay pages and policies etc and they clearly stand out against hobbiests or potential fake sellers I would take the punt. I dont have any experience with them personally but I wouldnt be afraid to try.