Investigators said the person behind the account posed as the model in order to groom underage girls and get them to send nude photos and their addresses and try to get them to meet. Thanks. Crime scene photos leaked? The girls bodies were discovered on his . I have joined the group on face book #Delphi Murders. Why did Mr. X not drive his truck away when it was in the way of all of the police cars? It is unclear when and where the photo was taken. And I appear quite harmless, too. I hope someday this horrendous crime will be solved. DELPHI New chilling details have emerged involving the Delphi deaths investigation. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. What is this guy, another Zodiac? But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. No, he didnt kill his own granddaughter. These guys are mostly narcissists and they dont believe in cooperation. The 2017 murder of Abby and Libby became notorious after investigators released chilling footage the girls recorded of a man following and approaching them across the Manon High Bridge. Instead pay attention to this new sketch, some kid. He was like a manager there or something, in Delphi!!! Too fucking bad. I dont know if he actually used the binoculars to spot them. Employed at two factories in nearby towns as a machine operator in recent years. Hence, following Occams, our theory is the best explanation of the facts. Another one of the videos had what Im assuming is a LinkedIn profile of some sort spliced into the slide show for a brief moment. They dont have enough on the main suspect him to take him to trial, but they enough to think did it. Were the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Net for years now. As far as my theories, I made a video (see here: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoxYhsduLQ) that outlines the visions held a couple of days upon learning of this crime. The manner of death has never been revealed. Also we dont know what they interrogated Ron about either. We believe he did this because there may have been incriminating evidence in there. Best friends Libby German, 14, and Abby Williams, 13, lost a lot of blood during their murders with an unspecified weapon and were not killed in the same location where their bodies were discovered close to a trail where they had set off on a fun day out together just hours earlier. Dolls were hanging from trees at the crime scene. You dont have LE sources. Only his hands, particularly focused on his bloody, sausage-like knuckles, could be seen with a caption that read after the brawl.. Notice that BG committed his crime with large knives or hatchets, his preferred weapon. Some people are very insistent that Ron Logan is the killer. Your email address will not be published. She has been featured in Psychic Investigators, Paranormal Witness, and interviewed by Nancy Grace! They go up to the knee and are designed to be waterproof. The rejoinders also say that either he never lost his keys or he did and he called the wife to bring a spare, and she did, evidence being the police scanner. However, this early searching meant that he could use his lost my keys excuse as a reason why his car just happened to be parked for 18 straight hours soon after the crime and right above where the girls were found because he could say the next day that he lost them during the previous evenings search. The full clip is reportedly 43 seconds long, but its contents are believed to be too disturbing to share in full. What are the odds that both parties made up these specific lies on their own? Id prefer stuff thats in the papers. In all four instances, people arrived at their conclusions independently of the other party. If you wish to join, please go here. Theyre swarming all over this crime scene, and the killer is standing right here under their noses in the midst of the chaos for hours, and these coptards cant figure this out. We think he likes to fool and troll LE. He could offend today in say, Ohio and offend in Illinois and be in his journey back home to commit more offenses. The point is that that Mr. Holder had nothing to do with this crime. I guess this need continues into adulthood, but I like a little meat on my bone. Hunting partner of Anthony Greeno, podcaster who has reported on the case avidly. Best of all, much of our information is via solid sources such as search party members, official case documents, and LE sources close to the investigation. Thats a GoPro on BGs waist and he filmed his crime. There is so much junk, lies, theory, you name it, it is there. BG is a 50 year old man. Allen has been booked into jail, but no details of any charges made against him have been shared. LE must know that BG recorded 43 seconds of audio, presumably of his crime. He later discussed the placement of Abby Williams' body at the crime scene, and he claimed that the victims were not sexually assaulted (none of this information has been publicly released yet). Actually there are four suspects in this case and we are not naming any of them. Employment history: Unknown prior to 2011. They all go off and do their own work. I dont get that vibe at all with everything I know, but then again I know very little lol. Theres no evidence that either man has been to the bridge even one time! Sex workers talk, rumours saved a lot of workers in Vancouver during Picktons reign of terror. Its very rare for killers to take photos or videos of their crimes. We have an LE source, a detective in Indiana, who told us just that. Mr. X not only discovered the bodies, but he ran away in terror afterwards. We park right at the front door. That would have been quite a problem. Easy, they were lying! Thank you! Big KAK getting hungry and Dad is no longer speaking to him. Ron Logan, who died in 2020, had long been put forward as a prime suspect. A heavily-built man in jeans and a blue jacket could be seen approaching the girls, and in a brief snippet of audio that was released the man could be heard saying 'Down the hill' to the girls. One seems to be PNB and the other is RRB. Which of them is LEs chief suspect? Thank you I came here after being directed to you. The catfishing situation is not what we think. We dont know why he asked permission to search Ron Logans land at 6:30 PM, but this is also a huge red flag because he asked to search the land a full half hour before the fire department had even announced the formation of a search team. And those are just a few of the suspected serials running around free. BTW whats up with all the psychic stuff? not sure I agree . I read most of those posts over there and of course I read any post about me. That person is probably some local creep getting revenge since those girls parents were into the same bullchit. So if he wore Packers boots to do his crime, he would have been able to cross that cold stream where the water is knee-deep. The photo shows Brittany Zapanta, 28 - the daughter of Richard Allen, 50, on the Manon high bridge in the woods outside Delphi, Indiana. Almost zero. And if Mr. X was being tried today and I was on the jury, I would certainly vote to acquit. Are we making up lies about getting information from police when we actually have no contacts with them? The dots connecting back to Iowa with the Tyson plant etc is great investigative work. The knife in the log was located near the girls right shoulder. Have you wrote about what the investigators talked to RL about? He parked 1,000 feet away from Rons door, almost a quarter mile away. We have the basic outlines of the crime sketched, and weve even filled in a lot of the blanks. Too many opinions and he cannot control them. Classy. Not because theres any evidence that they were lookouts, but more because everyone in that situation at the time of the murders is being looked at that way. Bottom line is the quality of our sources has increased dramatically over time. 7) Hes local. Only a deer kit looks just like that. 10) Regarding crime scene: Red herrings to throw off law enforcement. Long, 22 pages. Number 6, an extremely controversial statement, was told to JM and then to us by a sheriff in a nearby county. Is Mr X part of any of the local groups working on promoting the trail system? and that he was likely familiar with the Monon High Bridge. FSG, or DMC: Probably shouldnt use his real name, but hes on everybodys suspect list. Thats because he was competition. However, I do not believe it was sexually motivated, but believe theres potential for multiple motives. Furthermore, we have two different LE sources, both detectives in Indiana, tell us that this is exactly what happened. So the stellar members of LE have RL arrested and sent to jail all the while knowing he couldnt have committed this crime but doing NOTHING to stop the entire community from believing, first, that RL was a main suspect in the case,, and second, believing that he was in jail because he was a suspect! At least two prior marriages. Highly suspicious and the states that are responsible are more interested in getting into pissing contests as opposed to finding her. I am sure the person you and Mr. Lindsay are speculating who BG is, is spot on. Pay at least $20 for lifetime membership to my PayPal. The rumor that there was a spent cartridge at the scene is therefore confirmed. A famous one is the Lewiston Killer in Lewiston, Idaho in the late 1970s. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. "No, that's not her nor Libby," he wrote in his text response. Do have any knowledge the workers from Indiana who were transferred over there in 2011-2012, which plant they came from Indiana and which plant they came to work on in Evansdale? Also how about this? to find the killer or team of killers. Im not buying the fact that they just werent equipped to handle an investigation of this magnitude. He wasnt searching for his keys early on. He killed a woman. Over the summer, the details of a search warrant revealed that Libby and Abigail were found covered in blood, and that their killer appeared to have taken a souvenir of some sort from the murder site. Mr. X needed the lost his keys excuse to explain how he stayed in that spot for 18 hours. 11) I see his home. Until then, the enemies will keep attacking. I am 100% behind you. Theres no woman among them. We wish people would stop talking about fingerprints. However, he added that it is not a day to celebrate as families of teenagers are forced to live without them. Are you serious? Familiarity with crime location: Extreme. Flowers sit by a bridge near Delphi, Ind. I will kill again,' one note found in 1990 read. On February 13, 2017, Liberty German, age 14, and Abigail Williams, age 13, were hiking on the Delphi Historic Trail near the Monon High Bridge just east of Delphi in Carroll County, Indiana.. Where did he get the food and what was the food? And there are some good posters on r/LibbyandAbby; its just that they happen to be in the minority and all the best posters get downvoted to Hell and the people who are dead wrong get scores of upvotes! Your email address will not be published. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. is that creepy guy still following us?. I didnt remove it. Im actually a rather shy, introverted, cautious, and extremely polite person who is terrified of making people mad, getting called creepy, offending people, etc. I see you may have particular interest in the Evansdale case due to proximity. Our best police source just told us that Ron Logan has been absolutely cleared as a suspect. There is a press conference on Monday at 10 a.m. We will say more. I also believe 1) that all of the dolls found there were not put there after the crime but that this was an area that the perpetrator visited often to perform some kind of sadistic acts using the dolls, 2) that he was at that site when he perhaps saw and/or used binoculars to spot the girls on the bridge, 3)went to the bridge and then took the girls to his sadistic-acts place to perform those acts on live persons. No, they are obviously looking for photos and videos that the killer took as part of this crime. youre smart enough you should be able to figure it out by these bomb-sized hints we keep dropping. In the actual footage you can see flash bulbs popping off, presumably taking pics of the scene. But answer me this. Incidentally, this LE detective thinks our police sources are all real sources and thinks we are on the right trail. If a perpetrator staged the scene, they did that for their benefit. By that I mean that he probably has offended many times but being transient affords one the luxury of not getting caught. It has been said there were dolls and stuffed animals around the girls. Specifically, we are getting much of the the following information straight from the cops themselves. In September of 2020, messages started flowing on the web that were purportedly between the one who discovered the young ladies' bodies and his companion. Instead, their families are holding on to the hope that this is the year their killer is brought to justice. FBI agent believed bodies 'staged' in Delphi murders | wthr.com Delphi murder investigators focus on social media profile Watch on Who is the creator behind anthony_shots' fake profile? It turns out that we have acquired a sleuth who is a former detective. Unless he made them undress -- which I guess is possible -- was there some other weapon used?". There are men going down on this all the time all over the US. Of course she did. They talked to Ron and he allowed them to park on her land. And if it was 43 seconds, it would be on Libbys phone! 8 Weirdly Specific True Crime Shows That Actually Exist, Chris Watts Bombed His Polygraph Test, and It Led to His Confession, Where Is Convicted Murderer Jeffrey MacDonald Now? The case is still being actively investigated. Did he not see BG? The main suspects DNA is found in the forest around the crime scene. In general, the less said about the other aspects of his life the better, and they have no relationship to this case anyway. He uses all kinds of weird aliases. James Chadwell, 43, was added as a suspect in 2021 after he was arrested and convicted for luring a nine-year-old girl to his home where he sexually assaulted and strangled her in his basement,20 miles from where Abby and Libby were murdered. We believe Mr. X stayed with the truck all that time in order to watch it. Garrett said he's solved homicide cases that way, because typically a perpetrator buys a gun legally near his or her home, he said. Can you email me with her name, please? Answers to questions about my credibility. R/LibbyandAbby is awful, but its a lot better than r/DelphiMurders. We dont know who his roommate was in Delphi and then again in Evansdale, and we also dont know what sort of work they had both been moved over there for. Was present when the Evansdale Murders occurred. Hes in prison where he belongs. "I've always been concerned about how these two youngsters died. As if her murder itself wasn't mysterious enough, the case would see twists, turns, and dead ends along with mysteries within the mystery. The release of the search warrant comes several months after Indiana State Police announced that they were investigating a fake online profile called anthony_shots in connection to the case. The last person on Earth to protect the killer is poor Becky Patty, God bless her mortal soul. There's a lot going on here for me to try to figure out. Suspect: Ok, you got me. They also acknowledge that SSA, or same sex attraction is a logical process for a lot of men. Gas station attendant noticed something off with him, but hasnt made the connection! Police found the girls lifeless bodies a short distance from the bridge the following day, near a trail close to the bridge. He concurred that a high error rate is normal early in the investigation and he also said that by 4-5 years later, you may well get a much clearer picture of the crime. Do we know who this is and why he'd have photos? And I seriously doubt that any of those POIs have access to all of those sensitive case documents or that any of them have a personality like that. You write an article saying some guys not involved, and you get swamped with threats to track and hunt you down? We obtained this document via a public records request. Becky Patty: Obviously theyre not accusing her of the homicides! 12) Buried clothing of his stained with the girls blood on his property! Police investigating the mysterious Delphi, Indiana, murders are looking for the person who, they said, created fake Snapchat and Instagram profiles, posed as a wealthy male model and contacted underage girls. Photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, and film. I guess Im not sure when he graduated. John Kelly has some good information. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. The killings were later nicknamed the Snapchat Murders after Abby took a photo of Libby at around 2:17 p.m. and put it on social media. She was being potentially catfished by this person, who, of course, looked nothing like and was nothing like what he portrayed online.. I wonder how they made sure everyone on that team stayed tight lipped, especially after all of this time. Unverified but Likely. The stories vary from one of the girls still alive crying for help while the other lays dead next to her, the killer moving the bodies into disturbing poses or the killer violating one of the girls who was still alive and the body of the first girl that was killed. Required fields are marked *. Again, not saying that he did it. This lines up nicely with Leigh Kerrs testimony where he said that BG used binoculars in this crime. Ive seen some FB exchanges from BP where like you say, she appears to be defending Mr X or at least in denial that he could be a suspect. I cannot remember which girl had taken the photo of the man on the bridge with her cell phone, but I had read somewhere that on that cell phone there was audio of her saying something about a weird man approaching them and that is why she took the photo. She still hasnt been able to process this, assuming such a thing can ever be processed. Kelsi has been cleared. Allen, a 50-year-old Delphi man, was arrested last month. Police Handout. The authorities have been purposeful in not disclosing much information about the Delphi Murders. July 22, 2017 truthtellersweb. Thanks for all the info much appreciated. Kegan Kline, 28, of Peru, Indiana, was named as a possible suspect in the girls' murders. In a press conference on Monday, the state police took the first step towards providing justice to the brutally killed juveniles. Holder has an alibi that he was working out at a gym at the time. Killer May Have 'Moved and Staged' Delphi Murder Victims' Bodies and Done Something to 'Memorialize the Crime Scene': Warrants. They have also suggested that the crime scene was odd in nature. BG threw toilet cleaner over the girls and every object at the crime scene, thereby eliminating most if not all of the usable DNA. Nevertheless, as you can see above, three things that we spotted in the crime scene photos have been verified by independent sources in the search party, so the fact that these are crime scene photos is now proven. But many questions still remain around the murders of Abby Williams, 13, and Libby German, 14. I really dont see a motive for RL. BG himself is both the catfish young man and the older man who is the actual killer, so he is both sketches at once, obviously. He could have gone home, but for some reason he stayed with his truck. Still in Delphi, or on the border of Delphi. This was a sex crime, a sex homicide. We believe that the running away and months of therapy were also staged. In other words, they were faked. Garrett said he doesn't understand why it took police so many years to match an unspent round from the crime scene to a gun owned by a man who lives in Delphi. It is high time this comes to fruition. A press conference is expected Monday morning. This is why you dont hear LE openly accusing people of committing serious crimes like homicide unless they have enough evidence to take them to trial. John Miller, 63, was arrested in 2018 for the 1988 cold-case rape and murder of 8-year-old April Tinsley. An arrest has been made in the Delphi murders of two teens, Libby German and Abby Williams, who were found dead near a walking trail in 2017. . So Mr. X was more traumatized by this crime than anyone else, including the victims grandmother who was hurt more than anyone. I love true crime and listen to a bunch of podcasts and books. and that you think he already knew that they would be there.. Unverified and Probably Not True. 17:50 GMT 31 Oct 2022. The scope of this investigation in terms of who the police think did it and how it unfolded has been dramatically narrowed. The victims, according to the warrant, didnt have any defense wounds, but some articles of clothing were taken from them and removed from the scene, while the killer placed the victims bodies in what investigators called a staged manner. 43 seconds of audio. Ill leave it at that. So the rumor that he filmed the crime and sent the film to a victims phone is proven. Also, you develop better sources. Granted, we dont have any evidence that this is true other than Leigh Kerrs statements. A blogger/sleuthed named Robert Lindsay supposedly has one on his site, there's a camera flashing on it. See the photo Weve got a secret? We think the secret is that one girl is pregnant. A few people were claiming it was Abby leaned against a tree with her face covered in blood, claw marks on the ground, and a pool of blood a few feet away. We also dont know what he was doing searching down there that night. The date of the crime and the time of the abduction are both 2-13. Anyway, pastor in a Pentecostal church would be a perfect place for a man like that because those religious people dont care much about Alpha, Beta, and all that stuff. Hence, none of his DNA from the forest around the girls is usable. However, Mindtruth has done a number of episodes on our information and I thank Bruce for that very much. Oh, one more thing. jeffreydumber. Investigators have never revealed how the girls died or disclosed details about the crime scene. Known facts about the personal life of the main suspect, Mr. X.: Residence history: Unknown for first 18 years, possibly Illinois. Ok he has committed some sort of sex crimes or other or weird crimes like peeping and whatnot. . And with the evidence they currently have, they havent proven it. $20/lifetime membership. They are looking for exactly 43 seconds of audio that BG recorded. [Featured image: Abby (l) and Libby (r)/Handout], Alex Murdaugh Begins Prison Sentence With New Haircut, What About Buster Murdaugh? The FBI can also be used to determine whether there was a danger to the community and the impact of it on the community. Weve been proven correct on eight different things that only the police could have known. Not long afterwards, the pink stripe was removed from the truck, witnesses say. How do you join and can you join as a European? Kelsis DNA was the only DNA found on the bodies. Some claims are listed as unverified. Wait so the part about him recording the crime is some search warrant given to someone where the cops wanted to check media files? If you met me, you would laugh at them for saying that. A pair of binoculars. Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, is allegedly the man behind a fake social media account that investigators. I tend to agree. Mr. X also cuts up a lot of deer that he shoots for food. Because of the nature of the victims wounds, it is nearly certain the perpetrator of the crime would have gotten blood on his person/clothing, the agent wrote. According to the warrant, Logan said he was in Lafayette on the day of the murders, visiting an aquarium. You dont have to join. The only DNA found on the girls was that of Kelsi, sister of Libby. Point is that he may have never had ceased offending. For information on these documents, see the special section below where their nature and provenance is explained. An updated sketch for the suspect was released in April of 2019, and no further information about his appearance has been publicly shared. You think Im stupid? This sub is for discussion of the case that's come to be known as the Delphi Murders. We believe that those reactions were overblown. Mr. X is a very close friend of Mr. M. Mr. M was a 20 year old man who impregnated one of the girls. I could know that some guy was a serial killer with 10 victims, and I dont have to go to the police. DELPHI - The year 2021 should be filled with cap & gowns, graduation parties, and college choices for Libby German and Abby Williams. We regard Leaker as credible, but we now demand sources beyond his level to be considered probative. Im sure there are instances where its been used as an effective tactic in helping to solve crimes. You Go Girl! I do not feel comfortable using his initials or certainly his name. The shocking new details about the murders that have rocked the community of Delphi, Indiana, for more than five years came to light in a search warrant obtained by podcast The Murder Sheet and shared with The Independent.